11/6 Heroes plot induced stupidity

visit are pretty severe. If you weren't going to tell him the whole story (something for which I can think of no reason whatsoever at this point), you at least should have explained some of it using words like 'deadly' or 'laboratory experiment' which don't make him think the worst that could happen is you getting grounded. If you had properly gotten the point across, he wouldn't have paid a surprise visit. And if you do see him visit, for god's sake tell him to leave immediately.

Mohinder: You really should figure out that Peter can be used instead of Claire. Even if you can't get him, at least think of the idea.

Hiro: You know, the bit about cutting out your heart could equally well refer to your feelings that you betrayed Takeshi Kenzo, which means you don't have to leave the girl. Take her to the present (after stopping off in the 1930's to get ten copies of Action Comics #1 and becoming honestly rich from your powers.)

Of course, Bob is the one who would have to come up with that idea, since Mohinder has no reason, right now, to think he's still alive.

Wes already thinks himself above mere 'mundane' humans. What could she say WITHOUT revealing her dad's identity?

Does Suresh know Peter's alive?

Yeah, taking someone from the ancient past to the present won't change history. Aside from whatever ancient diseases she might have or immunities to modern diseases she might not have, there's the whole chance she's ancestor to some important figure in history. Hiro's done enough damage as is.

No, HEROES 11/6 not quite so stupid.

Go back and re-watch the last scene with her. The writers are basically making the point that SHE is responsible for spreading the legend of Takeshi Kenzo in ancient Japan in the form that Hiro comes to know in his own time.

Without that, history woud not have the story of a well-known heroic figure in Japanese history/culture. So she's gotta stay, or else they'd end up in a radically different future (time changes compounding over 400+ years).

If he took her to the future, then there'd be no-one to tell the Kensai stories.

And he HAD a copy of Action Comics #1. See the graphic novels (I think it was #1 or #2)

You are aware that 'mundane' is a word used by science fiction fans to mean non-fans, aren't you?

Well, even 'it's a matter of life and death and I don't mean this in some 'I'll die if I never see you way' but with real death and destruction' might help.

'Hiro's done enough damage as it is' is exactly the reason why he can take her. Yeah, he made the legendary hero great, and nearly destroyed history because he was going to take over Japan, but managed to fix things up by rescuing the princess and defeating him.

But the only thing he fixed was the gross change

This was the only part of the story that really seemed odd to me. West knows that Claire's father is strict about her dating, yet he shows up and blows the whole thing.

Mohinder thinks Peter is dead.

I'm not sure about that. Hiro 'became' Kensei, and the stories are really about him. He couldn't bring the Princess forward in time because he didn't know what effect that would have on the future.

>Take her to the present (after stopping off > in the 1930's to get ten copies of Action Comics #1 and becoming > honestly rich from your powers.)

That's out of Hiro's character. He's not going to 'cheat' with his powers. Besides, he's independently wealthy (having now inherited part of his father's obvious wealth).

Misunderstanding/miscommunication is a very irritating common plot device used by all lazy screen writers.

He can't control his power. They may need someone capable of controlling. Or, if they need their blood, perhaps Claire's will only work (and not someone's who simply duplicates other people's powers).

Doing that might change history. Plus, she would have to leave her father.

You are aware that it has a totally unconnceted meaning that is relevant to how West seems to look upon non-powered people, aren't you?

Except in the real history, he wwas Kensai, so he didn't damage anything. She couldn't come to the future, because if she did, she couldn't create the legend of Hiro-Kensai.

I agree, but if we want to rationalize it:

West has become arrogant and reckless because he thinks powered people are superior.

He thinks he can handle/dispose of them later, at his will.

When Noah walks in, West is truly terrified. Methinks the actor overplayed it.

Actually, I just Googled it. It's worth over a million dollars.

Hiro would *not* destroy a million dollars worth of anything to make a gesture at a grave; it just makes no sense.

And the idea that Hiro, of all people, wouldn't know that one is valuable is a little silly.