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Posted 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago
Gruffty
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Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
Dad: I'm fated to die.

Hiro: There was a future me, who had been in a future New York, five years from now. It was dead, but it wasn't fated to die. He came back and gave a message about saving the cheerleader and saving the world, and we *did*.

I find the 'it was fated to happen' idea a little silly, but sometimes a series does it and we have to accept it. But doing it in a show where someone *already changed the past and prevented people from dying*?
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
Ah, but Hiro didn't change the *past*, he changed the future.
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
Dad: And what happened to that future you and everyone else in that future?
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 5 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
No, he changed the past. That it wasn't present Hiro's past is beside the point.
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 5 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
He didn't change the past, he changed the future, or rather prevented a specific future from happening. Everything that happened last night is consistent with what we know about what Hiro can't (or thinks he can't) do. *
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 4 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
The past and the future are defined by the author. Mr. Kring is clearly considering them two different things. *
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 4 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
You've missed the point of Hiro's journey back to his mother's funeral. Hiro realized Kaito *wanted* to die. Kaito wanted to rejoin his wife, so Hiro to respect his father's wishes.
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
The old-Japan past is not definitively changed. It's entirely plausible that his actions created the past he expected.
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about Hiro changing the past by going back to talk to Peter five years ago.
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
I think you're looking at it too narrowly. Kaito was going to die. If not now, off a rooftop in New York, then sometime. It happens to everyone. Well, except, apparently, Adam Monroe. I think that's what Kaito meant.

Hiro's epiphany most likely came when he realized that his father was not afraid of dying, that it meant he would join his wife in the hereafter. Hiro probably also recalled how he was unable to save Charlie from dying.
 
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Posted 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago
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Re:Not heard on Heroes 11/20  
But wouldn't the future be his future self's past??
 
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