The terrible deed of Angela, Kaito, Linderman and the others of the nine SPOILERS and speculation

All that is nice spectulation, but if the generation in question is powered individuals as well, which as far as we know for sure at the moment, only Linderman was, but the others likely are as well, And Kensi appears to be powered as well, where does that fit in? I don't think Suresh was in on it, either one of them.

Takeo Kensei, on the rooftop, with the pavement. Now can somebody check the envelope?

Of all the 9, Sulu never would have suspected the killer. He obviously had a lot of respect for Kensei, raising his son on the man's legend, so he probably wouldn't suspect him. No dead killer body and his symbol was the death threat. Nathan is the red herring.

Although we've only seen Linderman use his power on-screen, the writers have clearly stated that Kaito and Angela are both powered. Plus, though the graphic novels seem to imply that Nathan's dad was not, the way Angela talks to Claire about him and their gang seems to imply just the opposite. I agree with you that, most likely, all 12 of them had some kind of power.

Clearly the older generation had some kind of plan involving the younger generation, but I'm not convinved that they actively mutated their own children to bring it about. I don't think they knew specifically who and what powers their children would have. For example, when Kaito hands Claire over to HRG, he doesn't say 'when she starts to heal herself' but 'if she manifests', implying that they don't know if she has a power, or what it is.

(This whole plan to blow up New York is really sketchy anyway; the Linderman group seemed to be working against itself half the time. For example, they tried to kill Nathan.. twice.. but he was pivotal to their plan. More notably, if Peter was always supposed to be the bomb, he would have needed to meet Ted at some point; but he only met Ted because both Angela and the Company failed to keep Peter and Claire apart.)

Specifically related to Hiro, Kaito's comment about his plan was 'I have been waiting a long time for a Nakamura to ascend. I never thought it would be you.' It doesn't seem like Hiro's rise to power, so to speak, was planned out at all.

So far, I don't see much evidence to refute the obvious explanation for who the killer is (at least, the one the writers seem to want us to believe right now). He's one of the 7 members of the original group we haven't met yet, is Molly's 'worse that Boogeyman', and is probably the person that Angela, Kaito, and Linderman all refered to when they mentioned someone in their group had 'lost their way.'

What? Nathan was 2-3 years old when Dallas met Linderman in Vietnam. I though you'd read the online novel?

I disagree that they tried to kill Nathan. I think they were trying to scare him, at least the first time. It was his becoming so frightened he flew that cause the accident that crippled his wife. I also don't think they knew who or what was going to blow up. Their entire plan was based not on causing the explosion, but on taking advantage of it after it happened. They knew about it of the paintings Isaac did, and they knew about his power. Their crime was not causing the explosion, but making no attempt to prevent it, even when they found out it was Angela's son. My theory is that they are afraid of Peter, considering what his power is, and what he would clearly think of what they have been doing.

I agree, and that lets out Hiro's sister. I don't think she can be one of the original 12, even if she has powers, which she might.

Not even really that. It was their plan to use the explosion, which they assumed was inevitable, to launch a political takeover bid.

I meant we've only seen him use them, none of the rest of the 12, unless Kensai is imortal and one of them.

jewahe! snp

All your objections are valid, and none are refutations just as none of my ideas are compelling, though I still like the idea of a fiendish cabal to change the course of humanity using your own genetic content as well as your near ones'.

Even in the cases where you correctly point out that the timelines interfere or the character's statements deny one or another of my suggestions I'm not dissuaded. We both know how malleable a TV story can be. just because Sulu expresses disappointment doesn't mean he didn't have his kid mutated. Just because Kensai is in the past in Japan doen't prevent his origin to be in present-day Las Vegas. And so forth.

It's great to have such a fertile ground for imagining, that's what I say. On to tonight's revelations.

Sorry, wasn't clear. I meant that out of Kaito, Angel, Charles, and Linderman, we have only seen Linderman use a power. I was using on-screen in the very broad sense of 'it happened somewhere we got to see it, not just in exposition.'

The first time I can buy it was an accident, but by all accounts, sending Jessica to kill him should have been a lock from their point of view. He only escaped by sheer chance of Nikki reasserting herself at just the right moment.

This is true, they may not have known who the exploding man was. But neither Linderman nor Angela seemed all that surprised that it was Peter. When Nathan told Linderman that he thought the bomb was Peter, Linderman would have known, through the company, about Ted Sprague, and I'd say he probably knew that Peter had never met Ted. Yet his only response to Nathan is that 'we all have our part to play'.

Also, if we assume that the conversation Peter overheard between Angela and Charles actually occurred, both of them also seemed to be aware that the plan was to let Peter blow up, or at least that he was intimately involved somehow. Charles says that Linderman is 'betting on the wrong brother', to which Angela replies that Peter is too weak to save the world, and that 'this bomb will go off.'